70-270 Difficulty...

Discussion in 'Windows 7 / 8 /10 Client Exams' started by nXPLOSi, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. Daniel

    Daniel Byte Poster

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    One thing I would say, is that ignore the TCP/IP section of 70-291, it asks you to memorize the table of Subnet Mask Notations.

    There is a much simpler way to do it.

    Code:
    Example:
    
    192.168.1.24 /28
    
    This gives us a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240
    
    So, of course in binary form this is:
    
    11111111.11111111.11111111.11110000
    
    So, the way I learned from Cisco how to find out what the subnet mask is with the /n notation is this:
    
    The first digit in an octet represents 128, the second, 64.
    
    Here is how it works..
    
    1st > 128
    2nd > 64
    3rd > 32
    4th > 16
    5th > 8
    6th > 4
    7th > 2
    8th > 1
    
    So now we know what the values are for the ascending 1's in the octet.
    
    Now we can use this instead of memorizing the Subnet Mask Notation table.
    
    11111111 = 255
    11111111 = 255
    11111111 = 255
    11110000 = 240
    
    You get 240 because you're 'adding up' the 1's
    
    128 + 64 + 32 + 16 = 240
    
    You get 255 because:
    
    128 + 64 + 32 + 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 255
    That's how I do it, sorry if it's not explained clearly but this was done on the fly :biggrin
     
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  2. Qs

    Qs Semi-Honorary Member Gold Member

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    Very similar method to how I originally learnt...

    I used to just write the numbers over the octet though. It's easier to view like this :-

    E.G.

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    :)

    Qs
     
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  3. nXPLOSi

    nXPLOSi Terabyte Poster

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    Yeah I use the same method as yourself Qs, as taught by the MS Course at QA, formally xpertise, in London. 8)
     
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  4. Daniel

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    Ah, sorry, I couldnt explain it much better, plus I wanted to give a bit of background instead of just diving in.

    Apologies :biggrin
     
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  5. Qs

    Qs Semi-Honorary Member Gold Member

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    Don't apologise :p Your explanation was good!

    It's just easier to view if you write it down in a different format. :)

    If it helps people, it's always good.

    +rep for your original post.

    Qs
     
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  6. Daniel

    Daniel Byte Poster

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    Thanks Qs :biggrin

    Was just worried I had given a much more garbled answer than needed :eek:!

    Dont wanna throw anyone off course :biggrin!

    Hope someone finds the above posts useful ^^
     
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  7. Lucinda

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    Don't worry! It's not hard! Trust yourself!
     
  8. Ence

    Ence Kilobyte Poster

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    :oops: bin table starts at 1 I did think it started from 2.

    256 128 64 32 16 8 4 2

    I also learnt by bits borrowed.

    128 |1
    192 |2
    224 |3
    240 |4 - Qs
    248 |5
    252 |6
    254 |7
    255 |8
     
  9. drum_dude

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    Best book for 70-270 is the XP Resource Kit, yes huge book but it contains the many best practices that the others do not have and which feature a lot on the exam. I failed 70-270 first time round and I used the traning kit and the Exam Cram 2 book. Second time around I made sure that I'd backed up my knowledge by looking up the areas covered by the exam in the Resource Kit...well I flew through the exam with a score of over 900 if I remember correctly. First attempt I got 675 :o(
     
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  10. drum_dude

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    Oops, didn't realise this was an old post lol!
     
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