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Old 04-Jan-2006, 01:19 AM
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Someone over at Techforums posted this link relating to IT job hunting, it leans heavily towards network admin, but useful stuff nonetheless:

http://www.thenetworkadministrator.c...romyouboss.htm

Thought it was pretty good, what dya all think?



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Old 04-Jan-2006, 01:38 AM
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great link man, enjoyed it alot.

 
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Old 04-Jan-2006, 01:49 AM
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I couldn't agree more with the writer Arisen. He states things as they really are IMHO. Thanks for posting it.

I am not against young people wanting to get into IT *if* they have a passion for learning, are head and shoulders above everybody they come into contact with regarding some aspect of computing and really want to put their talents to good use.

What many of them don't realise is that the learning curve in this industry is a huge one. There is so much to learn that it is impossible to know it all. To get an edge over all the competition you really do need to have something special to offer.

What I believe to be wrong is that people who don't have this passion or any real talent for computer related work are being advised that the IT industry will be good for them. The industry is being flooded with people from all walks of life that really are not cut out to be troubleshooters, web site designers or network administrators etc.

Your link may help to clarify the reality of the situation.


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Old 04-Jan-2006, 09:28 AM
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Excellent post, thanks m8.


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Great link Arisen, and great words of wisdom from Bluerinse.

 
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What I believe to be wrong is that people who don't have this passion or any real talent for computer related work are being advised that the IT industry will be good for them. The industry is being flooded with people from all walks of life that really are not cut out to be troubleshooters, web site designers or network administrators etc.
That, and the fact that they are told they will start out making a huge salary with no experience.

 
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Great link, can it be pinned?

 
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Great link, can it be pinned?
Ok...it's pinned.


It's been said that if you give a million chimpanzees a million typewriters, they'll eventually reproduce the complete works of Shakespeare. Wanna bet?

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Edit: Grrrr damn you Trip and that quick draw of yours


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Nice try, quick draw but I beat you to it.


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Well that was a brilliant post, as im looking to work in computers i will be taking some tips from that cheers

 
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cracking link, thanks. .
Some real good pointers there for all of us to gain from.

 
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True though the pity is that all those bastardz refuse you even if you have a degree + CCNA + MCSE. Reason: No experience. I am getting really frustrated with this attitude . How am I gonna get a job in the frist place if all those "managers" ask for 3 years experience. I dunno what to do. I am qualified, unexperienced and broke and in tears.

 
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True though the pity is that all those bastardz refuse you even if you have a degree + CCNA + MCSE. Reason: No experience. I am getting really frustrated with this attitude . How am I gonna get a job in the frist place if all those "managers" ask for 3 years experience. I dunno what to do. I am qualified, unexperienced and broke and in tears.
Chin up rezza, the truth is you have to be very proactive and persistent to get your foot in the door. Keep on sending those CVs out, keep pestering your recruitment agencies, keep applying for every job that might open that door for you! Ask around for voluntary work in your local schools etc.

Never give up, you will get there sooner or later for sure.


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Good read, thanks for taking the effort to post the thread.

As for 'kids', I'm 47, not really a kid, but the challenge for me is still there.

 
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