Bypassing the "automatically allow new stations" setting

Ryan · #1 25-Jul-2008, 03:02 PM

ok so heres the deal

i disabled the "automatically allow new stations" setting on the wireless box and now it will only accept stations that are in the database on the box, except there arent any in the database, so no matter which computer i use i cant connect to the wireless box now

any ideas? i dont have physical access to the box so a hard reset is out of the question

r.h.lee · #2 25-Jul-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan

ok so heres the deal

i disabled the "automatically allow new stations" setting on the wireless box and now it will only accept stations that are in the database on the box, except there arent any in the database, so no matter which computer i use i cant connect to the wireless box now

any ideas? i dont have physical access to the box so a hard reset is out of the question

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Ryan,

What make and model is the "...wireless box...?"

Paul_o · #3 25-Jul-2008, 03:12 PM

on my wireless router that setting only applies to wireless clients can you not connect via lan?

Ryan · #4 25-Jul-2008, 03:13 PM

i forget the exact model but its a speedtouch ADSL wireless modem and the default ssid on it reads SpeedtouchA99C18 if that helps

runs on virgin ADSL

thanks for the prompt reply by the way

**hbroomhall** · #5 25-Jul-2008, 03:33 PM

Log into it via ethernet and change the setting back.

Harry.

**craigie** · #6 25-Jul-2008, 04:23 PM

You should be able to find the manufacturers settings and login to it by the IP address and then reset it.

Ryan · #7 25-Jul-2008, 07:30 PM

can i remind everyone that i dont have physical access to the router so cannot just connect an ethernet cable to it

the wireless box is still broadcasting but wont allow me to connect at all, or any wireless clients for that matter

Fergal1982 · #8 25-Jul-2008, 08:20 PM

without physical access, I would suspect you are f*cked. You need to talk to whoever has physical access.

Someone must have the ability to get physical access to the machine, and they are who you are going to need to talk to. I just dont think there is a way. If there were a mac address in the listings already, then Zeb would probably be able to help you find a way to spoof that address in order to gain access.

But if there are no addresses in the list, and you cant touch the machine, I doubt there is much that can be done.

Ryan · #9 25-Jul-2008, 08:26 PM

something that dawned on me was that the box will still be connected to the internet, dont suppose theres any way to determine the mac address of the box from the sid being broadcasted and then somehow use that to connect to the web interface from the internet?

derkit · #10 25-Jul-2008, 08:29 PM

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something that dawned on me was that the box will still be connected to the internet, dont suppose theres any way to determine the mac address of the box from the sid being broadcasted and then somehow use that to connect to the web interface from the internet?

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While I can't answer this one correctly (so I won't even try) but my router has its MAC address on the bottom on a sticky label?

Fergal1982 · #11 25-Jul-2008, 08:29 PM

not a hope. Those sids are just standard sids for the box by the looks of things.

Even if you could figure out the mac, you arent going to be able to find out its IP, so would'nt get access via the web, and thats even assuming that the router admin software is configured to allow access from outside the network.

Although, if its supplied by Virgin, they may be able to help. possibly. Some ISPs set their routers to allow external access so that their service reps can remote onto your router to change configurations. And they would be able to find out the IP of the machine.

Ryan · #12 25-Jul-2008, 08:37 PM

just looking at the default config for speedtouches and they all seem to be set not to allow remote access by default..

pretty stumped by this one

as youve probably guessed, it isnt my router, someone elses nearby

thing is, i checked the log files on the router and it turns out they dont even use their internet, so chances are they arent going to notice wireless isnt working and so it will never get reset

Fergal1982 · #13 25-Jul-2008, 08:41 PM

admitting to stealing someone elses wireless internet access is unlikely to garner you much help here. CF advocates following of the rules/laws, and there are plenty of people on here who firmly believe that that is stealing, and will offer no help in the matter.

**craigie** · #14 25-Jul-2008, 08:42 PM

I think the best thing to do is to speak to the person who owns the router and let them know that they should reset the router and perhaps enable WEP, WPA or MAC address filtering.

Ryan · #15 25-Jul-2008, 08:44 PM

to be honest i was thinking along the lines of "what if they want to use it"

im assuming they have minimal knowledge of wireless due to the fact that there was no security on their wireless, so i very much doubt theyre gonna know how to switch the setting back, hence sorting the problem out seemed the best idea